Saturday, June 13, 2009

You Can't Have Too Many TOOLS - A Beginner's Foray Into Reloading

This is my first year reloading. It was getting harder to find ammo, to the point I've been shooting probably a fourth as much as I used to. But where to start? I'm lucky in that two of my friends reload, and are there to answer questions and provide tips. If you don't have friends to guide, there are some good manuals out there to get you started. If you buy a starter kit through Lee, there's a manual called "Modern Reloading" by Mr. Lee himself available for just a few dollars extra. Other bullet manufacturers and reloading companies put out manuals. Hornady does a very good manual, as does Lyman and Speer. I am using the Lyman one as my reference.

I can't stress enough, that reloading isn't just something you sit down and do with a few purchased supplies and no instruction or training. Handloading should be approached with the same degree of caution as that science experiment you did in college. Although the manuals are helpful, I'd really recommend you learn from an experienced handloader or a NRA Certified Reloading Instructor. If you don't know someone who actively reloads, or have an instructor in the area, ask at your local gun club, store or fish and game range to see if there are people who would be willing to mentor you in the process.

Just like in shooting the ammo, reloading the ammo requires the handler to assume the responsibility of safe handling with good judgment. Just as I will say that this post is simply a guide for a beginner and not to be used as a sole source of information; learn as much as you can before you start. Learn from someone with a keen eye on safety and if there is any question between you, use as a reference, a reputable reloading manual. For an excellent overview of reloading safety tips and information, before you get started, check out http://www.three-peaks.net/reload.htm . One of the best all around reference sites I've found as a beginner.

The picture above is my "basic starter kit". If you are ahem "mechanically" challenged, don't let reloading intimidate you. At its most basic, it's simply putting a new primer, bullet and powder into an existing brass case. You could probably even teach a Congressman to do that (though they'd probably try to stick some pork in the case). You don't have to be an engineer, you simply need some supplies, and a personality that has some patience and attention to detail.

Most people started off reloading to save money. When your favorite pistols are .45 auto,like myself, the cost of ammo adds up. So you think 'I'll reload to save money!". Well, that is a myth, but don't tell your non-shooting spouse (shhhh). For you will shoot MUCH more for the same money, getting twice the bang for your buck, as they say, which is what makes reloading so valuable, not even factoring in the availability aspect of ammo. You can stop thinking "well that's a Quarter" every time you hear a bang (ah the good old days) and concentrate on practicing. And practicing some more.

I can't give you a precise idea of starting costs. Though I could venture to say if you shoot less than a box a month, it might not pay to reload unless you are having a hard time finding a particular ammo. If you shoot that little, I'm not sure you'd want to reload, but in any event, save your brass, as I guarantee you have friends that would love to have it. You can easily spend $500 and up for precision and high-speed reloading for both rifle and pistol, especially if you get into the progressive presses. With an investment of this type you can produce some fine ammo at several hundred rounds an hour. If you're mechanically oriented, and have the finances to add to your store of tools, you might well enjoy that. But you don't have to. Buy the basics, save the really expensive high quality extra equipment until you've decided it's really what you want to do long term. You can buy the reasonable starter kits or obtain or purchase used and well maintained pieces, ask friends if they have any old equipment they want to get rid of, and you can get all set up for less than the cost of a fancy steak dinner out with you and the family.

If your budget is a little more than "bare bones" and you don't have a want or a current need for a progressive press, Lyman, Hornady, RCBS, and other companies make fine quality reloading equipment that uses more steel than aluminum and plastic. They each have kits (like the easy on the budget LEE kit) that will provide you all that you need to get started and will last you as long as you wish to use them. These kits can be found from $150 to around $300 and do provide some savings over buying pieces individually. I've been told that these kits will work for rifle or pistol (caliber-specific dies are required, and add a little cost $20 - $40 each, I think.)

With this basic reloading equipment, the process is simple -
  • Resize and decap the case (remove spent primer) in a sizing die
  • Expand case mouth slightly so the bullet can be seated, (expander die)
  • Prime the case with a new primer
  • Charge the case with powder, in my case using a simple LEE graduated scoop
  • Seat the bullet in a seating die.
  • Since it’s a 9x19 cartridge that headspaces on the case mouth, crimp the bullet in place using a ‘taper crimp die’ rather than a roll crimp as the bullet seating die will do (if so adjusted).
Let's start with the equipment -

A set of LEE reloading dies. LEE does not have the fancy or high priced "premium" tools, but the quality is more than enough to get the job done right. Sure, I like RCBS. RCBS reloading equipment is the Toyota Land Rover of tools. Extremely rugged and dependable, vastly over-engineered, and as good as you can get. LEE reloading tools are the Toyota Corolla
of reloading tools. Relatively cheap, rugged enough for your needs, not too pretty, but you still get the job done and at a much cheaper price. For a beginning reloader the LEE starter sets are handy, as they come complete with shell holder and powder scoop sized to that cartridge. For reloading straight wall pistol cartridges, the set needs a resizing/decapping die, a case mouth expanding die, and a bullet seating die. The starter equipment is not ideal for long term use in that regard, but it is a great, budget-minded way to get started. You can add those other items to it later. This will allow rifle or pistol reloading at roughly 50 rounds an hour (maybe 75 with plenty of practice).
The sizing die installed on a hand press. To fully resize the case, the die body must be screwed in until it touches the face of the shell holder installed on the press ram. The mandrel rod in the die must have it's decapping pin clear the base of the cartridge to fully eject the spent primer from the primer pocket. I can make a perfect blue cheese souffle. How hard can this be?
Here we have a shell casing mounted in the shell holder and ready to be pressed into the properly adjusted sizing die. Watch your fingers!
Another view. A shell casing ready to be inserted into the case mouth expanding die. This die should be adjusted in small increments till it 'bells' the mouth of the case just enough to allow starting a bullet by hand. This will let the bullet be pressed into the case without crushing the walls of the case, and without shaving lead from the bullet (when loading lead bullets). Over-expanding the case mouth leads to cracked cases and short case life.
A sized and decapped case ready to have a primer installed. The biggest problem I had in finding supplies was in finding primers.
Here is the LEE 'Autoprime' hand priming tool already set up to install primers in this size case. This is an area of reloading where you have to be as careful with safety precautions as you are on the range.. Wear safety glasses, follow directions, pay attention, etc. The primer is the only thing in the whole process that is actually explosive. One is not a big deal, but the tool can comfortably hold 50. Pressing the primers in by hand allows the reloader to 'feel' it being seated, and a case with a stretched pocket can be caught and discarded.
Voila'. A case with the new primer correctly seated. (and no, I am not going to tell you how many many times it took to get it right. :-) If you can, buy your powders and primers locally to avoid Hazardous Material shipping charges which can quickly add up on a mail order. Gun shows often are a good source of powder and primers. The powder companies produce written guides (free!) that will tell you how much powder to use with particular bullets in each caliber. If you can study the powder manuals ahead of time, you can minimize the different powders you need for different purposes and keep your costs in check. In the picture of my supplies, the powder is what was recommended in the kit.
A case with a LEE powder scoop. There are several ways to measure the proper powder charge. The best way is a mechanical powder measure checked by a good quality scale. That said, the oldest method in the world is a simple measuring scoop no different than a chef might use. Make sure you use the powders listed in the directions, if you're not a professional, this is not a process to say "hey let's try this!" Practice using a steady and repeatable scooping method. I like to pour the powder into a small dish and drag the scoop through it.

Is a scoop high tech? No. . . but it serves well as part of a beginner's cheap and portable kit. Later, when the reloader either obtains or cleans off their "dedicated bench", then a mechanical measure can be acquired and bolted to the bench. Till then, remember, most spouses would be cranky about having holes drilled in the dining room table to mount the measure.

Speaking of workbenches. You will need a place to work. It will need enough weight to stay put while you're applying pressure to the handloading press and should be stable. The height should be right about your belt line. Can't find your belt line? Stand about a foot and a half from the wall with your arm at your side. Bend your arm at the elbow, keeping your elbow tucked into your side, and pivoting the arm 90 degrees to point at the wall. The spot where your fingertips touch the wall should be an ideal benchtop height for you. My benches are different heights as they were originally old doors made into tables which were beefed up with spare lumber and repainted. Total cost. $4.00.

Give yourself enough space to lay out your tools and components. Add some shelves and storage area (secure from young children or grandchildren if you have them in your house) and make sure you have good lighting. An overhead lamp can really augment your garage or basement lighting.

Ventilation is nice. I've got a big screened door into the backyard from here for a nice cross breeze. Remember though, if you are CASTING bullets, not reloading, ventilation is a basic necessity, not a nice option.

I've got an old sink with hot and cold water next to the bench which makes cleaning of casings and general hand clean up easier.
Here we have a case, bullet, and a bullet seating die. In a pistol round this die has two functions. It will press the bullet into the case, and it will apply a 'roll' crimp to hold the bullet snugly in the case. The person that taught me the basics stressed that crimps can only be (and should be) used on lead bullets or jacketed bullets with a cannelure. Jacketed bullets without a cannelure should have a taper crimp applied. Autoloaders generally work best with taper crimped cartridges, but soft lead bullets do not work well with taper crimps usually.
The primed shell casing with powder charged, ready to have the bullet seated.

Follow the die set up directions to properly set the seating die.

If you want some more detailed instruction beyond reading about it, the LEE website has Video instructions on setting up the dies.You'll find them in the "single stage press' section.


A loaded cartridge, displayed with a taper crimp die. This die squeezes the side walls of the case into the bullet, holding it in place without rolling the end of the case over. This is important in an autoloader, as most will headspace the cartridge on the mouth of the case rather than the rim.

Hey, that didn't come in the LEE kit. That's the single action Donald Duck Pez dispenser that stays in the range bag.

Now for clean up. You don't want to be reloading with cases that have grit or fouling on them. That can wear out your nice dies VERY quickly (including scratching them internally). Many folks have a small vibrating tumbler to clean the cases, equipment similar to what we rock hounders have, the cases vibrating with ground up walnut shells or corn cobs. One of my favorites group of folks, Midway (www.midwayusa.com) has tumbler kits at a good price. But you don't have to have one to clean up. You can simply put the cases in hot water, and then rinse, and rinse again. To dry them out, put the cases on a clean pan in a warm oven for an hour or two to dry them out. Be careful that you use the lowest possible heat setting, less than 175 degrees. Any more than that is a really BAD idea. If you have a teenager in the house let them know, as they've been known to eat about anything found coming out of an oven.
In the end you'll find more advantages to reloading than simply saving money on the cost of each bullet (you know, so you can shoot twice as much). You'll be able to tailor your ammo to a particular firearm and you can have ammo for obsolete guns. With practice and experimentation within the prescribed limits of the manufacturers, you can improve your accuracy by developing loads that work best in a specific gun. You can reload ammo that by either market conditions or manufacturing rate isn't readily available. You can also match your ammunition to the type of game you are hunting or the type of sport shooting you are doing.

It's GREEN. (everyone's favorite buzz word). By picking up all those brass casings on the ground and re-using them you are stopping global warming (OK, NOT, but Al Gore would try and use that line). But it IS fun if you are technical/mechanical minded.

But mostly, it's a way to work with your hands, using new tools to enhance another sport you already enjoy, there quietly in your own garage, shop or basement. I can't think of a more relaxing way to spend an afternoon while gaining something truly useful with only a little time, effort and patience.

49 comments:

Jason said...

Awesome post Brigid - I have been collecting reloading equipment bits and pieces for a while and need to set up the shop and get started! Your post is the kick in the butt I needed.

Anonymous said...

I differ with your post on the longevity of LEE reloading equipment.

I bought a LEE turret press and a single-stage C press in the 1980s.
They are both still going strong (no parts breakage and just normal maintenance) and, in fact, I used them to crank out several hundred target .45s this week.

I was a competitive handgun and rifle shooter and for years loaded all my match and practice ammo on those two presses.

Most of my dies are from LEE and they have been tough and long-lived too.

YeOldFurt said...

Good post Brigid,
Between you and Carteach0, ya'll pretty much have it covered.
I started reloading with my Dad before I started school. We used Ideal tong tools with the mold above the pivot and a real scale with weights. I loaded for a Smith Mod 3 in 38 S&W. When my Dad got a C style press, he let me resize. decap and seat the bullets. Things sure were better when he got the Herters O style press. Now I use an RCBS O style w/scales & powder measure but Lee equipment follows me out to the woods or range.
w/v=gummens (Something I do to Oreos)
YeOldFurt

Brigid said...

Dear "anonymous". No where in the post does it have any reference to the longevity of the LEE product.

I wrote - "LEE reloading tools are the Toyota Corolla of reloading tools. Relatively cheap, rugged enough for your needs, not too pretty, but you still get the job done and at a much cheaper price. For a beginning reloader the LEE starter sets are handy, as they come complete with shell holder and powder scoop sized to that cartridge. For reloading straight wall pistol cartridges, the set needs a resizing/decapping die, a case mouth expanding die, and a bullet seating die. The starter equipment is not ideal for long term use, but it is a great, budget-minded way to get started. You can add those other items to it later."

I was referring to "not ideal for long term use" only that the starter kit doesn't have everything you need for some specialty reloading and you will have to add to it. I didn't mean for it to sound as if it wouldn't last. Thanks for pointing that out.

Yeold Furt - thanks. I learned a lot from Carteach's posts.

Rev. Paul said...

That was amazingly informative - I may have to start reloading. The scarcity of power & primers had stopped me, but I suppose I can scavenge casings at the range ... as long as I'm there by myself. (Don't want to have one of those encounters you alluded to in your ".22 things" post!)

WV: messe ... how my first attempt at running my own round balls was.

reflectoscope said...

This is a great primer on the subject! (Gong!) I'm here all week, try the veal...

Seriously, I liked your analysis of when reloading is worth it economically and when it isn't.

One thing I would add is a note on static electricity: Fleece is great, but not at your bench. Likewise, a grounded metal work surface would be a sensible precaution.

Anonymous said...

Nice write-up. You have accurately and very evenly described the process and the tools and made the hobby accessible to the new loader. Nice job.

I know when I started out reloading (about 30 years ago) I used the lee loader kits with 38 special and 30/30. The lee kits taught you the process, the techniques and most of all the safety in doing the job right. I still have my 38 special loader, but the 30/30 and the ones that followed left when the guns they went to left.

The key thing now is that after loading nearly 300,000 rounds I have yet to blow up a gun but I do admit to a squib or two. I attribute a lot of that back to the lee loader and good advice. Now with RCBS Pro2000 progressives, many dies and lots of tools (toys) the process is more fun and automatic, it is still something that should not be treated lightly.

Again, my compliments on a great writeup.

Anonymous said...

Great post and pics and commentary! I've been thinking about this myself. Thanks !!

Rob

Bruce B. said...

Good writeup. You didn't say whether the sizing die is a carbide die or not. I'm guessing it is if you don't lube the cases before sizing.

I started loading .45 ACP with a non-carbide die that required lube before sizing. Carbide dies are the way to go.

Where are you finding .45 ACP for 25 cents/round?

Bullseye said...

Brigid, I would like to thank you for this very useful post. I have really been thinking about reloading lately and this post may have just made up my mind to do so. Sounds like something that I could do no problem and would very much enjoy. Thank you very much.

Brigid said...

Bruce - That was pre-election pricing. :-)

I bought a boatload last fall. I gave .223 as Christmas gifts to family and close friends.

That's gone now so time to regroup, and reload.

Vinnie said...

My father is old school. He still buys a Lee Classic loader in every caliber he acquires. Really good for the severe budget.$30 complete ($50 in custom caliber) just add wooden mallet and load.(well primer, powder, and slug)

Ed said...

Thanks for clarifying the "not ideal for long term use" I too thought maybe that meant the parts didn't hold up down the line - but then I know very little about reloading. I have been thinking of getting the Lee handloading kit and wondered about it and what else is needed. I hadn't looked into it too much yet but now after the posts on your blog Brigid I will probably be getting the Lee kit. You answered some of the questions I have and gave me a starting point on other questions. Price is an issue but quality is very important too. Thanks for the great info from you and your knowledgeable followers. It does help.

I remember the first time I thought about one at a time handloading and if there were small kits for it - it was after seeing the movie Next of Kin. I remember there being some more basic type of HANDloading goin on in the movie.

Owen said...

enjoy your new addiction I've had my lyman starter set up for now 7 years. Still going stong. just loaded 150 rounds on it last week. Keep your the good writing.

owen

drjim said...

Excellent post for those on-the-fence about getting into reloading, like me.
My best buddy back in Illinois has been reloading since the late 70's, and I've helped him quite a bit, but never done any 'solo'.

James R. Rummel said...

Good post.

James

Oswald Bastable said...

A very light spray of one of those silicon lubricants makes cases run through a carbide die MUCH easier.

Paladin said...

"You can stop thinking "well that's a Quarter" every time you hear a bang and concentrate on practicing."

Ahh... the good old days :)

I've never taken the plunge into reloading, but after reading this I think I'm going to give it a try. Thanks!

Top of the Chain said...

Thanks for writing this. I went to the reloading store yesterday to 'case' the place. Zing!! And I'll start here within a month or two. You're post has given me the shove I needed to just be about it.

Did it MY way said...

Great post. I started with the Lee handloaders for shot gun shells,using the kitchen table. I still have those. Great memories.

As the years progressed and tools improved Dillion progressives press's were added with all the dies for all the calibers.

I only buy factory ammo when necessary to qualify(mine are still better).

It becomes addictive. I reload at least once a week. Great hobby, and the thrill of "I made these" is still there.

Doom said...

I purchased equipment, along with manuals and a video for myself for Christmas. I sure would like to take your advice and find a mentor or three when I get to it though. I had not really thought about how to find one, so thanks for that.

Since I am in the middle of a move and haven't even unpacked my presents except for a quick check, I am good. But I have been searching for primers since January, to no avail. I cannot find them in stores, online, at gun shows, or through friends. I am rather worried about that. Any ideas?

Thanks for the ideas, again.

RobD said...

Great post and lots of good information for new reloaders. With the current prices of new ammo along with the shortages I'm sure we will add many more to the ranks of those that reload. Primers are still a problem but will *hopefully* catch up over time.

I made the leap many years ago for precision shooting and agree to some extent with the price point. You do shoot more and probably break even but that is the trade off for more practice. Additionally, with some components it does make a difference as in my recent prairie dog hunt the components would have cost 3 times more from the factory and we would have expended the same number so the reloading really does pay off in certain circumstances.

I have always gotten better precision out of my reloads than I ever did with factory loads, even without taking any drastic measures (neck turning, etc.). With drastic measures your groups just continue to get tighter.

WV: warderol (When the warden gets heavily into the sauce and has an alcohol group attached)

Mulliga said...

Great guide to reloading - I'm glad to see you were able to find primers!

Firehand said...

Nice work.

Got started helping Dad reload when I was a teenager. Then a long break(marriage, kids, etc.), before I started loading my own.

First press was a Lee Hand press, with which I reloaded at LOT of .38 Special, .357 Mag and .303 British(full-length resizing .303 with that press, I had Arms and Shoulders of Steel). Used it 'till I picked up a RCBS press, and I've still got it put away.

Ed Rasimus said...

If you ever decide to move up to the progressive press level, you can't go wrong with Dillon. I'm fortunate to have known Mike Dillon who established the company and still call him a friend. He unconditionally stands behind his products (plus he publishes a nice newsletter!)

Your sort of guy--former crop-duster, B-707 Captain from TWA, gun lover, collector of automatic weapons (in large and varied calibers), owner of a fleet of war-birds and helicopters, and now producer of a very nice line of gatling-style law-enforcement/military weapons in a company branch called Dillon Aero.

The Hermit said...

I've been reloading for twenty years plus, and I am still picking up this or that to try out. You might enjoy Handloader Magazine, although it tends to be mostly about wildcats.

ajdshootist said...

Great write up,started reloading in 1971 and love it,one tip if you reload for an odd caliber when you sell the gun dont sell the dies they are always a lot more money when you go to buy them next time same rule with cases,started much the same as you but with the old Lyman 310 tool and moved on from there ran the reloading side of a firearms dealership for about 5yrs we used to reload 5 to 6000 rds of 38spl or 9mm a day on a Dillon 1050
brillant stuff Dillon.Take it nice and steady and always check and recheck to avoid mistakes.

Old NFO said...

Excellent basics Brigid, and good simple to follow rules! Thanks!

immagikman said...

Have a highend Mech press for 12 gauge
and inherited (early inheritance as my dad wanted to make room for other stuff) a multi-stage RCBS setup with several sets of dies. Ive been slowly accumulating powder and primers but all the bullets Im finding for .45acp, .357 and 9mm and primers seem to be costing nearly as much as buying ammo preloaded.

I don't know when I will venture into reloading pistol and rifle rounds but Im getting things together slowly.

TmjUtah said...

I'm a Dillon guy since '90. Mrs. Tmj bought us a 450jr, which I used on a strengthened youth desk set up in the corner of our modest apartment.

When I bent the frame in the course of reloading military .30'06 brass, Dillon asked me to send the unit back to them for replacement. I sent the stripped frame (on their dime) and they sent me back a complete reloader less the dies and powder measure.

They cautioned that they were in the process of addressing the inherent weakness of the 450 (which became the all but indestructible 550/Square Deal shortly afterward) and that I would probably get better results by sticking to commercial brass ... but that their warranty still stood, and that by "better results" they meant I wouldn't have to wait for repairs... Wow.

A decade later I sold that press for about fifty dollars more than it originally retailed for - sold it to make room for the 650 that sits on the left end of our main reloading bench.

Plan A had been to use the 650 for .45 and 9mm loads while leaving the 450 set up for .38/.357 but the caliber conversion process is so simple that it didn't make any sense to have two progressive presses in the same room.

I have never had a failure on the 650. Both Dillons I have owned paid for themselves many, many times over.

I use a vintage Herter's double ram press for my rifle loading. I might be going to a Rock Chucker, though, since I only have Herter's shell holders in .30'06. All my mil surp loading requires that I use an adapter to hold the cases (two per caliber - two rams, remember?) and that changes the geometry and ergonomics of the entire process.

I don't know if my ammo is better than factory as a rule. I know it is reliable and economical and safe. If I choose to sort cases by headstamp, meter each powder charge individually, hand inspect each case for concentricity and OAL, and consult the records compiled over the twenty years' worth of history I have for the calibers I load for... I know that my ammo in my weapons is absolutely better than factory.

Never, EVER allow food or drink into the loading area. This is mainly for the owner - you - but is a dead bang safety rule. Lead is not our friend except going away, and if you do spend decades doing a lot of shooting, reloading (especially cast), or working/attending ranges you need to manage your exposure to the lowest level possible.

Wonderful post, ma'am.

Oh, and I do have a Lee Loader for .30'06, too.

Carteach0 said...

I like the Flag Day piece on the sidebar. Well said!

Captcha: 'Hipsi' What a hippy get when he drinks too much fermented fruit juice.

davkt said...

Wish I knew you in person, think I'll need to learn realoading when I've got my firearms licence over here and can have the .303 Lee Enfield I'd like!

Michael in CT said...

I started reloading on my father's single stage press because factory 44 Magnum was $22/box and that was a lot of money to a usually broke college student. I graduated to a used 450 that got upgraded to 550 which I still use for rifle and the "odd" calibers that I haven't bought conversion kits for the 650 yet. Right now all of my pistol reloading is done on a Dillon 650, which is usually good for 500-600 rounds an hour.
Now I am reloading 16 gauge and 10 gauge in addition to pistol for cowboy shooting.
I always use rubber gloves (latex, vinyl or nitrile) to reload and clean my guns and strongly suggest doing so to everybody to help keep lead levels in the blood down. Remember, Midway and Dillon are our friends and are always willing to help relieve us of any excess cash.

Brigid said...

Michael - some women have a stack of "Glamour" or "People" or "Ladies Home Journal". I have a big stack of MIDWAY. :-)

Maybe one of these days they'll send me something free since I'm always singing their praises. Oh well.

Anonymous said...

Great post! I just started loading rifle and pistol calibers this year. I went the more expensive route and jumped to a Dillon right away. Bought the dies for .40, .45,.223, 6.8, and .243. (just added 38/357). The outlay of cash was significant for the start-up, but since both my wife and I shoot regularly, it has already paid for itself in savings over factory ammo. Although reloading supplies are getting tougher to come by, with a little searching they can be found...even in the Peoples Republic of MassASSchusetts. Hope you enjoy the new hobby and think you will find it just as addicting as I do. Thank you for this post and all of your wonderful posts in the past. My wife and I both read your blog regularly and I have recommended it to many others. Keep up the great posts. TimP

MauserMedic said...

Great post; I've enjoyed reloading for many years now, and when loading the more obscure calibers (.43 Spanish, $60/20 rounds last time I looked), one actually can save money. One small point of contention on crimping; when I started out, my .45 ACP dies had what I recall as a roll crimp. This led to many feed problems, finally ending when I went to a match and experienced three failures (the first, and last, three rounds of my run)of my 1911A1 to completely chamber rounds. It turned out that almost every round had a slight bulge from over crimping. I purchased a taper crimp die soon after, and experienced far less failures. These loads have mostly been 230 grain lead alloy round nose or truncated cone. The main thing is to not overcrimp, which seems to negatively affect headspacing. I think lead takes more care with this, being relatively softer.

On a different topic, how's the primer supply in your area?

RC said...

Great post Brigid. Like you, because of the cost, (mostly) I intend to start reloading soon. I've got a lot of brass just waiting to be filled. Thanks for the great link too.

jimm ny said...

Hey Brigid thats an old target your using, NYPD phased them out use the silhouette now...that target is an icon back east...remember them well

Johnnyreb™ said...

Nice write up!

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Buffboy said...

A very good post Brigid. I started with a Speer reloading manual and the Lee turret press 30 years ago. It's still going strong. I've used most of the brands of dies/presses/measures/books at one point or the other. They're all good. It really is "that easy", just pay attention and follow the book(s) recommendations for the recipes.

The only corrections I'd make to your narrative is that Lee "auto pistol" seating dies taper crimp the case. So do every other brand I've used for cases that headspace on the mouth. Revolver/rifle dies are the more aggressive roll crimp. Even the Lee Factory Crimp Die for auto pistol cartridges is still a taper crimp.

The second is: get a scale, this is IMHO not optional, otherwise you're just guessing on what is really going into that case. This is not a knock on the Lee scoops. I've used them successfully for years but what they say they hold, and what they actually do, isn't always the same. The loads you get from Lee's directions are safe, but I'm just sayin.

TmjUtah said...

"On a different topic, how's the primer supply in your area?"

What are these "primers" of which you speak?

Seriously - here in Utah they cost the teeth in your head when they can be found at all.

My main retail source won't sell case lot amounts to anybody any more; if he does, he sees the components up on the local internet bulletin board before end of business, going for three or four times retail.

Conservative Scalawag said...

Good post. Been thinking about getting back into reloading,but have not due to limited space in the apartment. Between you and a post done by DirtCrashR. I been thinking about getting back into it.

Crucis said...

Before I bought a tumbler, I appropriated a mesh zip-closed bag my wife used for laundering her nylons. I'd put the used brass in the bag and them threw them in washing machine. One cycle on light wash was enough and them I'd put them on the deck to air dry. I've heard others suggesting using a dish washer, but I'd prefer to kept my dishwasher just for dishes.

Lawyer said...

Thanks for this post! I keep forgetting that simple kits like the Lee are available and present a less expensive entry into reloading.

Warrior Knitter said...

Yea! for Reloading. Shooting is the sport and reloading is the hobby.

As far as primers, we found that you can substitute small pistol mag primers for small pistol primers. You will want to load down (less powder) and do some test loads to find what works best in your particular gun. A little more kick (feel more like commercial ammo) but they shoot fine in my 9mm Glock and Kimber and hubs M&P .40. In my part of the country mag primers are more available, more expensive but available.

B.S. philosopher said...

Believe it or not, another good source for tumblers is cheapo Harbor Freight.

I'm currently using one I bought from there along with their walnut media to tumble brass. It works great and its cheaper than Midway, even without the shipping.

gdreisewerd.rm said...

Hi Bridget,

Welcome to the world of reloading. It’s a very satisfying activity which allows you to produce superior quality ammunition. I can’t say that it’s any cost savings; It costs less per round to shoot so one shoots more. Anyway, here’s a few lessons I’ve learned over the years.

Use a highlighter pen on your reloading manual or place a ruler under the line as you read it; especially if you’re experimenting with a new bullet weight or powder. (I scattered a Dan Wesson over the farmstead learning this lesson.)

From my experience, volumetric measures like the pictured Lee measure or adjustable measures work well and have the advantage of speed. However, for target shooting, for maximum loads, a powder scale will produce better results.

Be especially careful when using low volume powders like Herco which do not fill the cartridge case. It’s quite possible to double charge a case. I use a loading block so I can inspect the powder levels before seating bullets.

Be especially careful when using maximum or near maximum loads; Do not switch between weapons without careful investigation & development. The 9 x 19 cartridge is particularly problematic in this regard. Bore diameters range from 0.352 to over 0.360. Free bores vary wildly. (I had to replace the grips on a S & W Model 39 learning this lesson.)

On the low end, watch for squib loads where the bullet gets stuck in the barrel. This sometimes happens with ancient military ammunition as well. Do not attempt to shoot it out (unless someone is shooting at you). Take the gun to the nice gunsmith.

I’m sure you’ve learned that alternating jacketed and cast bullets can result in lead deposits in the bore. Ideally, one will clean the bore to remove copper fouling before shooting cast bullets. On the other hand, the Hoppes Tornado Brushes easily clean out lead deposits. The coiled brushes do not wear the bore as straight bristles do and one can see flakes of lead falling from the bore when using these brushes. I would not recommend doing this at the kitchen table.

Jerry in Detroit

Crucis said...

Jerry, use a wooden dowel close to the bore size to hammer out a bullet stuck in the barrel. Lite taps with a hammer will drive it out. Then follow-up with a good cleaning with appropriate lead or copper solvent.

Brigid said...

Thank you all for such great information. I wish I could somehow tie all of this up in a post in and of itself. I've set up to do my first batch of .45 and will post later in the week. All your help, advice and support mean the world to me. Thanks.