
The Smith and Wesson M+P9c. For a new shooter, or anyone, male or female, considering something to carry concealed for the first time, it's a nice alternative to the G-22 and has less recoil due to a low bore axis. Like the G-22 it will stay tight and accurate, but even more so, necessary if you're using it for self defense.
This is a review that's got a lot of attention. Almost as much as my recipe for Guinness cake. There are a couple of features that make it worth a look at for anyone looking for a nice concealed piece. Something going for it that is gaining favor in law enforcement work. It has replaceable backstraps for the grip, and comes with three different sizes. I have pretty big hands, though they're small boned, and the "small" is too small but would be perfect for the average sized female shooter. Get your dealer to let you try all three, see which one works best. If you found the smaller G22 backstrap did NOT fit your smaller hand, this one will.
These can be replaced in moments, and chosen to suit the hand size and comfort of the shooter. Here it is with the backstrap removed to show you how easy it is. Twist and turn one part of the grip base, pull it down and pull off the backstrap and there you go.
Law Enforcement departments like this feature as one model of pistol can be tweaked to fit many hands, and female officers appreciate being able to change grip size to suit their smaller hands.The weapon is easy to clean as well. The sear must be released before the slide can be taken off. S + W built the M + P so the sear could be deactivated by moving a lever in the magazine well. Other guns of such similir action types including the trusty Glock require you pull the trigger for disassembly. I probably need not remind my readers, that the most basic step before disassembling a gun is to ensure it is completely unloaded INCLUDING A CHAMBER CHECK. In any event, the M+P9c can be disassembled without pulling the trigger, a nice feature. S + W also went ahead and built in a tool to do this, the lock rod for the replaceable backstrap is just right to reach in and move the sear deactivation lever. Release the slide, and it comes right off the frame. Easy as can be.
Like all firearms, the M+P should be cleaned before it's first use. Like all auto pistols, it benefits greatly from an initial cleaning and lubrication. Since much of the trigger mechanism is exposed by a simple field stripping, its a great time to apply a light lubricant.
The compact pistol comes in 9mm, .40, and .357 sig (a fairly hot round).In either case I would suggest the 9mm version for the lighter recoil and less expensive practice.
The trigger is quite workable, cupping the finger nicely, with a manageable 6.5 pounds of trigger pull. Out of the box, the trigger isn't perfect, slightly better than the Glock, but like the Glock, smoothing out even more after about 250 rounds through it.
Like a Glock, the S+W M+P has no external safeties (except some of the full size .45 models).
The concept is simple - if there is a round in the chamber and the trigger is deliberately pulled, it will fire.
Don't want it to go off? Don't pull the trigger.
It's much like a revolver in this way, only easier to shoot well and holds 13 rounds of hot 9mm in its 9c compact form. I wouldn't promote this for a concealed choice someone who had limited or no shooting experience. This is neither a huge power tool or a bucking bronco but I wouldn't recommend it as concealed if you don't have basic shooting safety down cold. If you shoot often enough to develop really solid handling habits, the lack of external safeties and light pull double action should not deter you. All guns you have access to, you need to be practiced with, but this piece requires enough practice to be ready to use it without hesitation. This is a handgun designed with an experienced shooter in mind but frankly, the trigger safety system on the M + P is great and less likely to have an accidental discharge than other smaller weapons you may have looked at.
I had a discussion with someone about the lack of safety and I brought up one point. I'm considered a bit of an expert in human factors engineering (and some forensic things) by trade, and I can tell you this. When all starts going to hell in a handbasket, the first thing to go is fine motor skills. The mental coding repetitive training offers is what keeps one alive.Frankly, I DON'T want to be fumbling for a safety when being rushed by a home invader twice my size. I want to release my weapon aim and pull. Period.
Factory sights are good with a sight length of just less than 6 inches and the weapon unloaded weights a mere 21.7 ounces. My little bag full of assorted flavored lip gloss weighs more than that.

Holster options are comparable with Glocks, in other words... folks -anything goes! Blackhawk does not make a Serpa for the 9mm compact yet. I have one of theirs for my P220 and like it a lot, but almost anything else is available. If you are looking for a concealment purse or bag, there are lots out there, many incredible overpriced. Make sure whatever bag you use for this gun, that it has an internal holster. I would never recommend this pistol for bag carry with a round in the chamber, otherwise. If there is a round in the chamber, the trigger needs to be covered for safety. My carry bag has a minimal holster inside it that wraps around the trigger guard area and protects it.
It's rugged, not just pretty in pink. Stainless construction coupled with Melonite should make for a rugged carry in the long run. Gunsmithing, if ever necessary is readily available and spare parts are available from Brownells and others.
But like chocolate cake - with the calories, there is one drawback to this fine piece, one someone has already commented on.
The magazine has been known to "drop out" when in use. Yes, you get good action going, things are tight and grouped well, and the magazine falls out. Ladies, you know what I'm getting at here. This is NOT someplace you want to be. Preliminary research suggest somewhere over 15% of the older M + P compacts had this issue and Smith and Wesson redesigned it several times without any great joy until this last year. The one I shoot has never done this, but it did drop out while in the holster. Not good for a law enforcement weapon. Not good for self defense. Any semi-auto can have that happen, a good reason to always carry a spare magazine, but this particular magazine had it happen more than others.
The problem appeared to be threefold.- The catch has a very small engagement area with the magazine.
- The metal of the magazine is harder than the catch, and it was a sharp edge that was being engaged.
- The spring which holds the catch engaged is a torsion bar and could be stronger.
Don't let this put you off this fine piece. If you are buying a used one, and can't ascertain if it's been updated Smith and Wesson WILL provide a new magazine catch. (or if you're really handy with tiny elfin type tools and Scottish with the "thrifty" gene as some of us are, you can also make a small nylon spacer tube to strengthen the torsion bar spring and increase tension on the magazine catch).
S + W Customer Support is great, even if they don't get too wordy in their responses. The fix for the Home on the Range weapon was a thin coating of something dark and mysterious. It's pretty thin, the steel shows through. There doesn't seem to be any other change - engagement tension feels the same, release distance still measures a hair over .030".
Hundreds of rounds later, there has been no evidence of any further problem and others I know who had the same fix, report the same. I would not let it scare you off this piece and frankly, it's one of the best concealed weapons out there for the price. If you are looking for a tight, designed for the pro's but simple enough for the average law abiding citizen, weapon - this is it. People that own them, wouldn't trade them.
I'm not really a "pretty in pink" type of gal, but I agree that this is a fine offering in the concealed department.

Be it a piece of paper tacked to a tree 30 feet away, or a bad guy that a .22 is only going to piss off, this is one of several good choices if you are in the market. Not a bad grouping for "from the hip" with a 3 and a half inch barrel. (and no, it shot neither high nor low, there needed to be a blank spot on the paper on one end to pose the gun :)

Self defense with the M+P9c. A Piece of Cake.
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I likely recommend the M&P 9 standard model over about any other for my Lady students, and had 2 this past week that were told they had to shoot revolvers as they couldn't rack the slides.
Guess what they could!!, when shown the proper way, and both found the 9mm much more comfortable to shoot over the 38.
I think you've knocked me off the fence with the M & P. It was one of my 3 finalists. Have you heard any reports about Apex Tactical's enhancement kit for the M & P's trigger. It's supposed to smooth out the pull and drop it 1 - 2.0 lbs.?
Dang, I'm OLD! I saw S&W M&P and thought Military & Police K frame revolver. Are they already recycling these too?
Dang near pulled the trigger on an M&P .45 but went with the XD45 instead as I felt the XD's trigger was a bit better out of the box.
But the S&W sure gave me the "I can hit with this thing" feeling.
And finally, if the mags continue to fall out unexpectedly, I'd say someone needs to work on their shooting rhythm.
Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular but SOMEONE needs to practice more.
I carry one of these every day and love, love, love it. I've never had the magazine catch issue. Great review! It really is a nice little pistol. I upgraded my sights to tritium, but other than that is is completely stock. Easy to carry and reliable. I often carry a full size magazine for my back-up/reload. Sure it looks funny when it's got the big magazine in it, but I figure if I have to use it for real, I'm not going to care what it looks like. Oh, and mine's not pink ;)
I have one too. It's one of my primary carry pistols when I have some cover. On occasion, I'll carry it in addition to my pocket pistol.
I've not had any mag problems with mine. Mine is a year or so newer than yours and apparently any bugs were worked out. I did add grip extenders to all my mags. S&W had a "2 Free Mags" coupon when I bought mine giving me a total of four.
I now have more S&W firearms than any other brand---four wheel guns and the M&P.
Now that winter is approaching, I'll probably carry the M&P9C more often.
Here's a link to my review of the pistol.
http://crucis-court.blogspot.com/2008/11/range-report-s-m-compact-9mm.html
My only problem with the M&P, just like the XD is they don't point NPOA for me... They both point high right!
I've put in 3 Apex Tactical duty trigger kits into M&Ps, 2 into my 9 & 45, and another into one of my friends 9. Drops trigger pull to right around 5 pounds, and got rid of the 'crunch' - even on the awful MA compliant triggers. All drop in parts, too. At this point, I won't own an M&P without an Apex trigger. They have a competition version that's even lighter, and can also increase the felt reset click.
Our review of the trigger & install, if anyone's interested is here: http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/110613
Another reason for the magazine problem is the draft angle in the mag well. The plug that forms the mag well while in the mold has to be tapered so it can be removed, so the well is bigger at the bottom than at the top.
Essentially, the magazine pendulums inside the well, wanting to swing on the magazine catch. It's a problem common to any plastic gun to one degree or another (reference, I'm a former S&W and Colt engineer and worked on the molds for the Colt, now Beretta, .22 semiauto).
In fairness, the guys up at Smith have reworked the plug and changed the material it's made from to reduce the draft angle from something like 1.5 degrees to not much more than half that, so the newer ones are better (I keep in touch at monthly drinking sessions out in West Springfield).
Son One is a P.D.detective and carries an M&P 45 in a pancake holster. A continual gripe of concealed carry cops is that the safety "wipes off" easily while being drawn from a concealment rig, not a problem for the blue suiters with their duty holsters.
Admittedly, not a problem for the M&P's that don't have a thumb safety, but police departments live in fear of weapons malfs, and face a litany of liabilities should something go off when it isn't appropriate.
According to Sean Sullivan, the chief armorer for Springfield Mass. P.D., the biggest problem he has with the M&P pistol is the large amount of open area in the back of the slide, allowing ingress of foreign matter. Quite simply, he gets nonfunctioning weapons coming in with sear engagement blocked with skin particles.
In my opinion, it isn't a great duty weapon, unless the entire force is seriously into constant shooting and cleaning, something that just doesn't happen in big cities.
But, the ergonomics are sweet, it's a fun gun to shoot in 9mm, O.K. in .45acp, and a semi bear in 40S&W, although it doesn't break in half across the magwell like the Glocks in .357SIG and .40+P do.
Running out of room and I'm on a roll, so more next.
As a purse or carry gun in the hand of someone who realizes it needs regular and extensive cleaning, I think it's a fine weapon, although wildly overpriced if you pay within $200 of list.
They were selling them a year or two ago at Hoffman's Gun Center in Newington for under $300, so the new management up in Springfield are getting greedy.
I would give it a B overall, and, though it's arguably the best of the plastic guns, I also think it's a viable arguement for the return of aluminum recievers.
Modern 7075 alloy with a T-6 heat treatment will do anything steel will, at less than half the weight.
Honest disclosure, as soon as we catch up on our backlog of all steel 1911's, we're starting up on a run of carry guns with forged aluminum frames at CMT.
We don't broach the mag wells, we EDM them to avoid any distortion. EDMing aluminum is a stinking, dirty be-atch of a job, but holding a magwell to one thousanth of an inch in form and position is worth it.
Keep a plastic gun clean, undinged and dry, and your grandchild will be shooting it 30 years from now. Scuffs and scratches allow moisture into the material, and the E-Glass fibers inside are very hydroscopic. Warpage (admittedly under extreme conditions) is a real problem on some weapons.
A forged, milled, properly heat treated aluminum reciever can be thumped as much as a steel one, comes in only about 2 ounces heavier than a plastic reciever, and will be shot by your great grandchild, scratches, history and all.
Me, I'm a dinosaur, and carry steel top and bottom of the weapon. I carry what I practice with, and lately I've been shooting enough (and I get paid for it:-) that I want the extra weight to shoot better and not end up with carpal tunnel.
Isn't it interesting how many serious Glock competitors you see with stainless steel recievers from CCF? I wouldn't shoot one of the bassers in .357SIG without a steel frame. New Mexico State P.D. scrapped all their G's and went to Smiths when the buggers started blowing up.
My opinions only, other's mileage may differ.
Looks like this is a good recommendation for my girlfriend who wants to have her first concealed carry, nice review!
The only S&W M&P that interests me is a nice medium sized revolver and can often be found gently used at good prices. In terms of compact semi auto's I use Glocks which would make one of these superflous.
Interesting to read a review on one though.
Ok, I should have read this first. I didn't know I was suppose to clean it before I shot it. Could explain why I was covered in black the first time I went to the range:)
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