Sunday, October 3, 2010

If you or a loved one read any post this month, read this one.


J.R.R. Tolkien said - I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. - The Two Towers


I have the occasional comment that starts with "do not post". Sometimes they are someone wanting my email to "send a recipe". But others just have a shooting question they don't wish to make public, thinking it will make them "look dumb". There are NO dumb questions in shooting, only dumb answers.

One of them was the comment, of a new shooter, that if he was going to shoot an intruder, it would only be to wound them to "stop the threat".

When someone mentions that they are only shooting to "stop the threat", I hope they still mean they are going for center mass. When a person mentions "shooting to wound" they often mean to shoot someone in the arm, leg shoulder or other non fatal location. After all, they just want the person to stop their aggressive behavior, remove the threat, not KILL them. Right? That makes sense on the surface, but I want to point out that there's some important things to consider.

(1) Shooting someone in the arm is still using lethal force in the eyes of the law, and under which you MUST be in immediate danger of grave bodily injury or death. If you are not, then you are not allowed by the law to shoot them at all.

"Shooting to wound" as well, may not be valid legally. Because, in civilian life, it would likely parallel a standard far beyond that established by Graham v. Connor, the benchmark U.S. Supreme Court decision on police use of force. How that would apply to someone not a member of law enforcement is best left for the legal experts. But I wouldn't want to be in court trying to explain why I felt the threat was only so much that I needed to take out the fleshy part of their upper arm.
By legal definition, the possible consequences of deadly force includes both death and great bodily harm. The law doesn't break these two apart. When someone gives the argument that when threatened, they should just shoot a little bit, enough to wound, they are probably unaware of that. Deadly force is not about ‘just a little bit.’

If someone is threatening you with great bodily harm and you defend yourself with your weapon, there's a substantial risk of great bodily harm, or death. The law doesn't even suggest that deadly force should be enough to wound. with no probability of death. This is not about ethics, it's about what is correct, both legally, and tactically.

If I manage to ignite the flaming bacon kabobs in my kitchen do you think I'm just going to grab the tiny little fire extinguisher that's in the dining room, and use just enough to hopefully stop the fire? That would be the reasonable thing to do, some might argue. Or am I going to grab the "BIG" fire extinguisher that's in the kitchen/ laundry area where there are multiple sources of fire and smother the crap out of it til it quits burning. That is not reasonable. That is necessary.

Some elements of these legal points were discussed in CCW classes I've participated in, but some states do not require any training for CCW and the legal aspects may NOT be known to some folks.


(2) Think you're good with a paper target? Do you practice only when the weather is good and it's warm? Think again. Try shooting in that bulky winter coat in low light when it's 11 degrees out, no gloves, hands half frozen with cold. Try responding to threat in all kinds of conditions, then imagine that in addition to that, your whole body is abuzz with adrenalin.. That is real life self defense, and nothing at all like most people experience plinking at the range on Saturday with friends.

During an event when the life is, or is perceived as being, mortally threatened, the body enters fight or flight mode. The brain dumps chemicals including adrenaline, noradrenaline and cortisol into the body to prepare our itself to survive. The downside, these same substances that, increase our alertness and strength and endurance also decrease our reaction time. Why? Blood is diverted from our extremities and from the surface of the skin to decrease bleeding if we were to be injured. Functions not necessary for survival including digestion are slowed or completely shutdown. ( I personally believe my metabolism entered the fight or flight mode at age 30 but that's another post)

That, in turn, greatly diminishes our fine motor skills, tunnel vision may occur, and many people begin shaking, not out of fear, but as a response to the chemicals being released into the body. In this state, some people have lost the ability to unlock doors, operate phones, or other actions that require fine motor skills. Being accurate with a handgun is exceedingly difficult, and under those condition that ability is greatly reduced. The military and secret squirrel teach that when adrenalin dump occurs the training takes over. Is your training up to speed? For in that state, even the best of shooters may not be able to get that one shot to the shoulder, arm or elsewhere. If you miss, they are upon you and your loved one.

(3) The bad guy probably is probably mobile. Shooting at a moving target is far different than a stationery one. Just shooting at a target that's offset, when you are used to practice shooting straight ahead, is hard. The head, arms and legs all naturally move when the body moves, sometimes a lot, making them much harder to hit.


Even highly trained shooters see a considerable drop in success in hitting the target when it is moving. Target acquisition of a moving target while under extreme stress is not easy for even the experts.

(4) The bad guy is intent on harming you or killing you. Shooting at that paper target is far different than shooting him. There is less time, he's not standing still like Mr. Paper Bad Guy, and he may be armed and moving, intent on harm.


(5) The human body is extremely sturdy. The truth is, when someone is shot, it's not like TV where they get flung across the room, crumple up in a little dead heap on there floor. There are exceptions. A head shot will drop them pronto, but the vast majority of shots are center mass. The folks at the FBI did a study some years ago on Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness in which they state that even after the heart is hit hard a person MAY have 10-15 seconds of willful control. That's 10-15 seconds in which they will do all they can to kill you. I could show you multiple coroner reports where the perp had multiple wounds, any of them in and of themselves lethal, yet they continued to attack as they continued to be shot. During training at the FBI Academy, agents are told of a case in which agents shot a bank robber 65 times with 9mm, .223 and 00 buckshot – he survived

These are not oddities folks. They do happen. You may drop someone with one well placed shot, even with a small caliber, but it is not as likely as TV would have you believe. Think about it. How many times have you've shot a deer through the heart and watched it leap yards and yards before it drops. You've tracked the blood trail that goes farther than you imagined, lots of blood, and there, a considerable distance away, is your buck. The body has stores of oxygen it can use, in a fight or flight situation, for sometimes some surprising seconds, before the brain shuts down.

With the exception of a brain shot, most shots do not kill instantly. Man, like any other animal, must follow the dictates of nature and expire from lack of oxygen to the brain. How is this going to happen? First is your basic circulatory collapse, either complete failure of the heart that stops the flow of oxygenated blood to the brain or bleeding out. Or second, they can die from loss of functioning of the lungs, i.e. the lungs fill with blood or the airways are disrupted to the point that they cannot support the flow of air through them. When the lungs quit replenishing the oxygen in the blood what little you have left in oxygen stores is soon gone and the brain shuts down .

But unlike TV, this does not happen instantly, and depending where your shot went and how determined or high on drugs your attacker is, they might reach you before you find out.

Even more cheery news, if you miss the heart, remember the body is capable of pretty much continuing to operate until about 20% of the blood supply is drained, more time than you'd like, if the wound doesn't cause immediate blood loss. Shots to the stomach? Serious on the OUCH factor, but recently a criminal in Idaho was been shot over 20 times in that area and survived. The lungs? Sure, it's sort of in the "center" but, as I said, it takes seconds for the lungs to fill with blood or the airways to be disrupted where they can't support the flow of oxygen through them.

It's about blood loss folks. Face it, shots to the arms or legs or shoulder aren't going to result in a blood loss that's going to stop someone. With some small ammo, some don't even REALIZE they've been shot until it's all over, what with the adrenalin going. You've heard the quote "if someone ever shoots me with .25 auto and I find out about it I'm going to kick their a**?

It's merely a flesh wound!
Shooting to kill is just that, hitting vital organs such as the heart/lungs, in areas that will bring rapid and uncontrollable bleeding, or to the head.

There's really only one type of shot that is guaranteed to take someone down in 1 to 2 seconds from the shot being fired and that is one that will instantly scramble the "circuitry" of the human body. How that works is something any techie would understand. A nerve must be struck by the bullet or the shockwave produced by the bullet passing through the tissue that contains the nerve. That will agitate that nerve, whether it big or small, enough for it to go haywire. When it does, it sounds out a large amount of electrical energy from all the nerves involved, that head on up to the brain and simply overload its capacity to respond. It's the blue screen of death in the brain. The brain shuts down completely and there's no rebooting this one ladies and gentlemen. You might see a twitch, as nerve signals also shoot downstream from the area of the damage to the periphery of the body where an exaggerated response of the normal operation of that nerve occurs. But they are, by all intents and purposes, dead.


Nerve disruption that will take the body down like that is in the brain or the spinal cord, NOT the heart. Do you try some head shots at the range on your non threatening, non moving target? Then you know how hard it can be to hit. Now add in movement and adrenalin, and getting a shot that is not only well placed. but will penetrate. is easier said than done. The spine isn't that easy to hit either, it's not that large (and in some politicians, non existent) and the shot needs to be placed in the upper 1/3 of the spine (at a point about level with the tip of the sternum, around T11) to be instantly stopping. And since you have the rest of the body in the way, the spine isn't really an option. You can NOT shoot someone in the back if at that point they are no danger to you and yours. You can't shoot them running away from the scene. Bad guys do it all the time. WE can not.

If someone is coming at me with a gun or a knife, or even his bare hands and the intent to rape and perhaps kill me, the last thing I'm going to consider is shooting him in the arm or the shoulder or the leg. For me, shooting to kill when threatened with great bodily harm or death IS my psychological default.

If I only have time for one shot and it MUST count, I probably won't go for the head shot first. Pistols can be ineffective when they do not find a thin part of the skull to pass through, often bouncing off. An ocular window hit will usually get in, but the human head bobs a whole lot more than Mr. Stationary target, making that window that much smaller.

But I AM going for the heart and the major arteries just above it. I'm going for the head as well. I'm not going to use .22 or .380 unless that's all I have. I'm going to use calibers with lots of shockwave and I'm not going to play patty cake with the person that wishes to kill me. I'm going to get that first shot in where I know I have a chance at shot placement and I know it will matter. I'm not going to "wound" the criminal, with the resultant possibility of bone and nerve and muscle damage, wherein attorneys can play the argument of ‘cruel and unusual punishment’ and pursue punitive damages for destroying the capacity of your ‘victim’ to earn wages and so on. You don’t try to just wound people with a gun. If you buy a gun for self defense, saying "I can't defend myself with lethal force", don't buy one.

Shoot until they catch fire or melt but once they are dead you stop, and if they run away, you stop. Whether your life was in immediate and grave danger, if there's a bullet in the back or buttocks of the criminal YOU are now the criminal in the eyes of the court until you prove otherwise.

So, when a non shooter or new shooter says to you that they would just "shoot to wound", have a little discussion with them about legal dynamics, human physiology, tactics and ballistics.

Then explain to them what happens if they meet up with darkness, unprepared or unwilling. For then, they will have lost something, asking each day for that piece of themselves that they will never regain, if they are lucky enough to walk away with their life. Then in those long dark, lonely hours where they trace the scars that may only be invisible, they will ask themselves, over and over again, why? They will look in the mirror each day and every day and ask WHY didn't I act to stop.

If that talk does not convince them, just throw them in a cage with a .22 and a 500 pound Kodiak bear. Then see if they still agree with the "shoot to wound" philosophy.

34 comments:

Hat Trick said...

Excellent post, Brigid.

On the subject of caliber selection I remember reading a story many years ago of a robber who held up a convenience store with a 9-shot .22 revolver. The robber died of massive head trauma caused by the clerk's baseball bat after landing 6 out of the 9 shots in the clerk. The clerk was still on his feet when the ambulance he called for the robber arrived.

Use a big enough gun.

john bord said...

One thing I have learned, If a gun is pointed at me, the intent is only one..... KILL. From Combat in the jungle to the street, it is kill or be killed.
The guy coming after you with a gun has no conscience, no guilt or remorse and doesn't give a damm about consequences.
Nice guys meet the mortician.

old okie said...

Thanks Brigid you may have saved someones life with this post.That was the way my wife used to think, think God she now knows to shoot until BG is down. Then reload.

The Farmer said...

Excellent post. Like the definition on lethal force. Some people don't realize that grabbing that bat in the corner to defend yourself is still using deadly force. As well as punching in the head or throat. Kicks to the groin can count also. The choice to use deadly force comes with consequences and you must prepare yourself mentally in advance as much as possible to be able to deal with those consequences.

Tango Juliet said...

Shoot whatever part of the body the aggressor presents and keep shootin' (more importantly, HITTING) until the threat quits doing whatever it was that made you shoot them in the first place.

Borepatch said...

The spine isn't that easy to hit either, it's not that large (and in some politicians, non existent)

This is so awesome, it's about to collapse into a Black Hole of Awesome.

This whole post reminds me of Col. Cooper's saying that owning a gun no more makes you a warrior than owning a piano makes you a musician.

Anonymous said...

Well said Brigid.

I would suggest to your readers as I do all my shooting students:

On the very worst days of the year, you know... rain, snow, windy, cold, blisteringly hot... GO TO THE RANGE AND PRACTICE!

You'll find it hard to get your gun out due to bulky clothing; you'll find your eye-glasses fogging up or spotted with rain; you'll find your grip slipping due to rain or sweat; You'll find your fingers in your favorite winter gloves won't fit in the trigger guard; your thin gloves will get caught between the mag well and magazine when you slam in the reload home...

Practice the way you carry daily!

Carry daily the way you practice!

Make changes as needed!

I could go on, but everyone gets the point.

Best,

Dann in Ohio

Rev. Paul said...

Thank you for putting this one up; it's another must-read for my daughters.

MO Bro said...

Great informative post. It is very clear you DO know what you are talking about and you live what you preach. To the max. Please continue to share your wisdom for we are all the wiser for it. Not Budweiser but Brigid-wiser. Much better!!

Paladin said...

Awesome post, Brigid! Really great points, and ones anyone who seeks to secure their own safety should take to heart.

Sherry said...

You are absolutely right. I have taken defensive pistol skills classes and participate in a weekly defensive pistol league. And the part about shooting in good conditions!!! I took a defensive pistol class - with outside shooting in the middle of a New York State winter. I complained and whined about the bitter cold, until I realized if I ever have to defend my life, it may not be a bright warm sunny day. And for personal defense, I don't want anything smaller than a hollow point .45 acp.

I really enjoy your blog.

Lawyer said...

Brigid,

Very well put. I hear that comment often, especially among my church-going friends. It's almost as if they believe that by defending ourselves, we turn into a monster if we shoot to stop, rather than shoot to hurt.

This is definitely a post that needs to be shared.

Old NFO said...

Outstanding post! COM is the ONLY aim point to stop the threat!

Ian said...

Excellent post. If you're going to do it, do it! As it is said, if you don't intend grievous bodily harm (at the least) when you pull that trigger, don't even think about it.

And the point about time is also very well taken -- and may serve to explain why the household armoury includes, as well as a couple of firearms, a claymore (very sharp) and a really nice ordinary sword (ditto).

Beprepared said...

I disagree Old NFO, only in that [i]multiple[/i] COM aimed shots are the only point of aim.

As the head of one of the national training schools advocates, "you keep shooting till the threat is gone."

Bridgid, cudos to mentioning the shooting in the back. This opens a whole can of legal worms. (Lawyers are bad enough with out legal worms with them.)

In another forum I frequent the issue of CCW and should you intervene while at your corner gas n go during an armed robbery. There were plenty who said, "Absolutely! I'm helping my freinds and neighbors!" To which my arguement was that if you got a CCW to help fight crime, go become a cop. I then laid out the arguements of lethal force (drilled into us in boot camp) and that by producing your weapon [i]when you are not being threatened[/i] can be construded as a misdomeaner assualt with a deadly weapon against YOU, the good samaritan. Far from the outcome many have drawn in their head. Another in the forum shared my opinion that in this situation, you hide down by the Doritos and make like a quiet mouse until the shooting starts.Better to you if it ends with no shooting.

Sorry to ramble on here about this but there are too many people with CCW who are eager to jump into a situation, and by doing so can make it orders of magnitude worse for themselves [i]even if[/i] things turn out well and the evildoers are subduded.

Gerald said...

An excellent article, Brigid.

As my training officer, a local lawyer, explained it, a deadly weapon is anything that can cause serious bodily injury or death; guns, knives, arrows, all manner of blunt instruments as well as the drafting pencil I commonly carried; anything. He successfully defended a client who responded to someone shooting at him by hitting him with his automobile then leaving the scene in case the shooter had friends.

There is one training method I found especially helpful. I believe it was regarded as somewhat outdated at the time but the FBI had previously trained agents in the use of deadly force by showing a short film on a paper screen in a shooting range. The student had to issue commands, decide to draw his/her weapon and decide to shoot or, even more importantly, not shoot. It seemed pretty hokey but I can tell you it worked for me and certainly saved a suspect’s life in a drunken domestic quarrel one night.

The point about shooting until the bad guy lays down is a good one. Most of us were hunters and would shoot once. Our training officer was constantly reminding us to keep shooting. Personally, I believed if 3 applications of .45 ACP were insufficient I better look for something more convincing.

Paper targets have always been problematic in my view. They sit there. One method we tried in indoors ranges is moving the target. One officer would shoot while the other slowly moves the target toward the shooter. It was not unusual to find some very good shooters become disoriented when the target charges them. I also found plinking grasshoppers on the family farm to be beneficial to shooting skills as well.

Crucis said...

When I first got serious about shooting a couple of decades ago, I had a mentor who had been an "operator" and also had some secret squirrel experience as well. His advice was to always practice the Mozambique until it became automatic. He said that built-up habit had saved his life more than once.

I believed him.

Anonymous said...

Good post,similar to my military aviationtraining in that you don't pick the day you're going to crash!The elements are the silent wild card. Ridgetop

Anonymous said...

Good post.Being prepared for all types of weather is usually overlooked by many.I recall my military aviation training which stated you don't get to pick the day you crash- anymore than the optimal time to encounter the bg's. Weather conditions are the unpredictable equalizer in many situations. Ridgetop

Six said...

It's brilliant Brigid.

Keads said...

Great informative post as always B.!

I teach the State concealed carry class here (required for permit) and I have had the conversation about "winging 'em" far too many times. As you point out, deadly force is deadly force no matter where you aim. In this state it is simple assault just to point a firearm at someone.

Your commentary on targets that are moving and hostile as opposed to "shoot me" paper or bowling pins is spot on as well. Some stress can be simulated with the competitive shooting sports, but not as would be present in a critical incident as you so succinctly point out.

We do have live fire as part of the qualification for the permit but the test is hardly awe inspiring. B-27 target at 3, 5, and 7 yds. State requires 28 in the target. I require 32. If you cannot do that I really don't want you around me at the Stop 'n Rob when I am in line!

Thanks again for a great post!

Hope you arrived safely!

Kelly

Rio Arriba said...

I've never liked "shoot to kill." I feel it pollutes and complicates the whole self-defense situation. I prefer "shoot to stop," which may or may not amount to the same thing but in my opinion presents a cleaner profile for all the Good Guys involved.

After all, shooting to kill and shooting to stop an attack are really two different concepts. Castle doctrine laws which absolve self-defenders from legal recrimination would go even further in that direction.

Hurricane Mikey-- said...

Thank you, Brigid, once again, for enlightening and informing in a way that even the most inexperienced and/or uninformed can understand.

You have a gift--thank you for sharing it with the rest of us!

Anonymous said...

Well done, and nicely written.

I recently attended a course on the use of lethal force and found it to be money and time well spent. A two to three second deadly force incident will change your life, forever, and anyone who carries a firearm, even in the house, ought to consider getting some legal edumacation.

--
Brian

JohnJacobH said...

Colonel Jeff Cooper often said target shooters should divide their time between the range and the hunting fields and hunters should do the same if either group wished to be fully prepared to use their weapons under extreme circumstances.

To help educate myself and others on the realities of stress fire incidents I maintain a small archive of what is possible and/or necessary when under attack.

I heartily recommend the exercise to everyone else as well.

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/category/real-gunfights/

In Liberty,
JJH

TrueBlueSam said...

Keep up the good work, Brigid! People are listening to you, and making the right decisions. Here's my mom again: http://truebluesam.blogspot.com/2010/10/and-boy-are-my-arms-tired.html

Rourke said...

First time here - Six recommeended your article - simply very well written.

Aim to injur? Don't think so. Especially those with kids should understand - if my or my families life is in danger I will make every attempt and effort to eliminate the danger - dead!

Great post!!

Rourke
ModernSurvivalOnline.com

kwbarker said...

Great post. Something to think about(even though these things can be difficult and unnerving for some)when you have the luxury of time instead of when you may not...

Shannon said...

By the end of this post, I was so worked up with enthusiasm, I could have sworn Steve Austin was behind me shouting "Can I get a HELL YEAH?" I'll be sharing this everywhere possible.

Ed Foster said...

Son One had a shootout in a drug house 4 or 5 years ago. The gentleman inside dropped the two Hartford cops on the left side of the door with shotgun blasts at 10 or 12 feet, then opened up on offspring.

Fortunately for the guys on the floor, the first two shots from badguy's 1100 were trap loads. Everything after that was a slug.


The first slug went 3 inches past Ed's ear, then he opened up with 230 grain hydrashocks. His first shot split the perp's lungs and snapped his spine. Mr. Nasty continued to fire from the sitting position.

The second shot took out two chambers of the heart. Mr. Bad kept firing from the sitting position.

After eight Hydrashocks, all center of mass, the shotgun went empty and the shooter was cuffed. He died, but it took 15 minutes for him to do it.

He'd been doing his own PCP for 3 days before the shooting. Folks like that are out there.

Conversely, one of the largest Brown Bears ever killed was shot with an H&R 9 shot revolver loaded with .22 lr high speed hollowpoints, by an Indian woman in Canada, while she was out gathering wood. With, truthfully, a papoose on her back.

The bear reared up directly in front of her, to get a better grab angle on her across a pile of brush. With a woman's practicality, she put a few hollowpoints through his testicles, after which he did what any male creature would do, falling to the ground and screaming.

She emptied the rest of the revolver through his eye, and one or more 40 grainers bounced around inside his skull until the job was done.

You never can tell.

And rape is a bad thing or a horrible thing, depending on the culture the woman comes from.

I've worked with Polish and Ukrainian women who were gangraped by Russian soldiers, and the standard reply was "That's what happens in war, and that's what soldiers do, but they never should have done those things to the young girls", meaning the Mongol and Turk penchant for 7 and 9 year olds.

After the first day or two, they settled down into a routine of casual prostitution for food and security, and everybody was friends.

The same thing would turn my very Irish sisters into homocidal killing machines. Not much fatalism in Western Europe.

But the point I would try to make to even the most passive, liberal,timid woman is this: the chance of aids is sky high in most social groups likely to provide an unknown assailant, and rape is an act of hatred for women, not a misguided attempt for love or affection.

Fight for your life in any way possible, or run the risk of dieing a long and ugly death that isolates you from everyone you love at the moment when you need them most.

Rape is attempted murder, so do whatever you must to stop the son of a bitch, and smile when you think of the other women you probably have saved along with yourself.

Ed Foster said...

Son One had a shootout in a drug house 4 or 5 years ago. The gentleman inside dropped the two Hartford cops on the left side of the door with shotgun blasts at 10 or 12 feet, then opened up on offspring.

Fortunately for the guys on the floor, the first two shots from badguy's 1100 were trap loads. Everything after that was a slug.


The first slug went 3 inches past Ed's ear, then he opened up with 230 grain hydrashocks. His first shot split the perp's lungs and snapped his spine. Mr. Nasty continued to fire from the sitting position.

The second shot took out two chambers of the heart. Mr. Bad kept firing from the sitting position.

After eight Hydrashocks, all center of mass, the shotgun went empty and the shooter was cuffed. He died, but it took 15 minutes for him to do it.

He'd been doing his own PCP for 3 days before the shooting. Folks like that are out there.

Conversely, one of the largest Brown Bears ever killed was shot with an H&R 9 shot revolver loaded with .22 lr high speed hollowpoints, by an Indian woman in Canada, while she was out gathering wood. With, truthfully, a papoose on her back.

The bear reared up directly in front of her, to get a better grab angle on her across a pile of brush. With a woman's practicality, she put a few hollowpoints through his testicles, after which he did what any male creature would do, falling to the ground and screaming.

She emptied the rest of the revolver through his eye, and one or more 40 grainers bounced around inside his skull until the job was done.

You never can tell.

And rape is a bad thing or a horrible thing, depending on the culture the woman comes from.

I've worked with Polish and Ukrainian women who were gangraped by Russian soldiers, and the standard reply was "That's what happens in war, and that's what soldiers do, but they never should have done those things to the young girls", meaning the Mongol and Turk penchant for 7 and 9 year olds.

After the first day or two, they settled down into a routine of casual prostitution for food and security, and everybody was friends.

The same thing would turn my very Irish sisters into homocidal killing machines. Not much fatalism in Western Europe.

But the point I would try to make to even the most passive, liberal,timid woman is this: the chance of aids is sky high in most social groups likely to provide an unknown assailant, and rape is an act of hatred for women, not a misguided attempt for love or affection.

Fight for your life in any way possible, or run the risk of dieing a long and ugly death that isolates you from everyone you love at the moment when you need them most.

Rape is attempted murder, so do whatever you must to stop the son of a bitch, and smile when you think of the other women you probably have saved along with yourself.

Anonymous said...

In Texas CHL classes I have heard it proposed that one should "shoot to stop the aggressive act". You didn't shoot to kill them, you shot to make them STOP. If that resulted in their death, so be it. You shoot center mass, but if they stopped attacking you and sat down stunned that you had shot them, after only one hit--then you ought to call the cops & ambulance while you protect yourself against further attack. And if it took 3 magazines worth to make them stop, then you still only shot to make them stop.

It's basically the legalese you want to use when speaking to the authorities after the shooting.
--Vic303

Mr. Police Man said...

Dang long, but great!

Dan said...

Great Post / thanks. I enjoyed it the first time I read it and moreso now. I have an extreme disdain for the whole notion of firing 'warning' shots. I appreciate the detail and time you have taken to explain the physiological component. All the best.